Re: F37 Change: Make pkexec and pkla-compat optional (Self-Contained Change proposal)

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On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 09:17:41 -0800
Adam Williamson <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Wed, 2022-02-16 at 12:12 -0500, Ben Cotton wrote:
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/polkit_recommends_pkla_pkexec
> > 
> > == Summary ==
> > Split `pkexec` from the polkit package and make it a recommended
> > only sub-package. Similarly, make the polkit-pkla-compat package a
> > recommended package too. This will enable users and desktop no
> > longer relying on those features to avoid installing them.  
> 
> Splitting them off but making them Recommended seems odd to me. At
> that point we've got all the work of splitting them but little of the
> benefit, because soft dependencies are included when building images,
> so our default installs are still going to include pkexec.
> 
> Why not just not have them recommended at all, and instead try to find
> all packages that use them and add dependencies, so that they will be
> included when an image or whatever really does need them? Is that
> considered too difficult?

I woould prefer having hard dependencies on the necessary packages
instead of a recommends.  Some of us run with weak dependencies turned
off and the missing requires will break things for us.  Having the
recommends in place will mask the breakage instead of letting it be
caught in testing.

Jim
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