Re: GNOME (and Cinnamon) issues in Rawhide: status report, including gnome-bluetooth soname issues

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On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 01:21:15AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> > AFAIK we've always had that rule. It's always been policy that we don't
> > untag once a build has been in a successful compose. I don't think this
> > changed "a few years ago", unless I'm misremembering.
> 
> Not always: The policy that disallows Rawhide going backwards was supposedly 
> documented (it does not say where) in 2009:
> https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/96
> and the ticket says that it was introduced by FESCo "at some point in the 
> not too distant past". So I guess it was introduced somewhere around 
> 2008-2009. I have been trying to fight it ever since, especially with the 
> introduction of distro-sync that makes it completely pointless.
> 
> Also note that, at the time, it was not as strictly enforced as now because 
> untagging from Rawhide was self-service, anyone was able to untag any build 
> from Rawhide at any time, so at most the rogue untagger would get scorned by 
> rel-eng. It was fairly common to see downgrades in Rawhide reports, 
> typically as the result of untagging broken builds.
> 
> And before that ca. 2008-2009 FESCo decision, there was no rule at all 
> against it, which is where I want to get back to. Even upgrade paths between 
> stable releases (which I would consider still relevant) are apparently no 
> longer considered relevant due to distro-sync, so why be so strict about 
> them in Rawhide of all places?

About a year ago I asked fesco to add

"In exceptional cases, releng may untag packages."

https://pagure.io/fesco/fesco-docs/pull-request/40

kevin

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