On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 at 18:14, Kevin Fenzi <kevin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 03:30:52PM +0000, Jonathan Wakely wrote: > > > > I can't see how "rawhide/f36 has been completely isolated from > > previous releases" can be interpreted to mean that :-) > > Well, long ago when we branched, there was a inheritence chain in koji, > so if you built something in F(n-1) it just got inherited into F(n). > So, ie, if you built foo-1.0-1.fc36 it would just also appear in rawhide > until you specifically did a rawhide build). This just caused a lot of > problems, and I think this announcement dates back to when that just > happened. So, now it's causing confusion the other way. :) My point is more that "rawhide/f36 has been isolated" makes no sense. Note it's phrased as singular, as though "rawhide slash f36" is a single thing. It's not, it's two branches now. Does it mean "rawhide and f36 have been isolated"? Or "rawhide/f37"? The confusion is not because of historical practice, it's because the words just don't make any sense. > > > f36 was already isolated from f35 and the other previous releases. > > rawhide has now been isolated from f36 (which is not a release). > > > > How about rewording it as: > > > > "Fedora 36 has now been branched, please be sure to do a git fetch > > to pick up the new branch. As f36 and rawhide are now separate branches, > > anything you do for f36 must also be done in the rawhide branch." > > > > (This seems backwards for my workflow. If I wanted to make a change on > > both rawhide and f36 I'd do it in rawhide and do a fast-forward merge > > to get it on the f36 branch, but this announcement probably isn't the > > place to be giving people tips on git workflow.) > > > > The next part seems OK ... > > > > "There will be a Fedora 36 compose and it'll appear in > > http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/development/36/ once > > complete. Please be sure to check it out." > > > > Although I'd avoid the contraction "it'll" and I'm not sure what > > "check it out" means. Is it telling me to checkout a Git branch? > > Because that's how it could be interpreted. I think it's telling me to > > try the 36 compose. "Please be sure" sounds like this is something I > > *should* be doing as a package maintainer, but I'm afraid I never > > routinely try pre-release composes. Maybe it should simply encourage > > people to try it, not sound like it's compulsory. > > Yeah, I am going to get all these announcements checked into git and > adjusted. Thanks for the good feedback on it. Great, thanks! _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure