On Mon, Feb 07, 2022 at 03:25:44PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > 1. do nothing, keep it broken > > I pretty much dislike this option. Clearly, the current behavior is not what > was approved in this change proposal. For me, it's a bad option. Agreed. We want to use langpacks with rich depenendecies *more*, e.g. replacing comps with that, and it'd be a big step back if rich deps stopped working as expected. > > 3. do not ignore already broken weak rich deps (partially reverts the change) > > This sounds like a possible path forward -- it would probably still be an > improvement over the the Fedora 35 status quo, however the results might be > quite surprising for the users. If we decide to do this, I think we should > postpone to Fedora 37 neverthelss to see it in action and figure out if it's > actually a good idea or an UX nightmare. Agreed, this doesn't sound too great either. I think we'd be better postponing the feature until F37 or later if we can get a solution then. > > 4. change the behavior on dynamically depending on the dnf command used > > (discouraged) > > As stated by the change owner in the bugzilla, this is probably not a good > idea. Even when the user types `dnf install` it sometimes upgrades some > already installed packages and even if they type `dnf upgrade` it sometimes > installs some new packages. Agreed also. > > 2. disable this behavior by default, keep it optional, but keep it broken > > This only makes sense if it's likely to get fixed and enabled again in later > Fedora release. If the plan is to disable it by default and never touch it > again, I suppose we might as well revert it entirely. I would very much to > see the change happening as it was advertised, even if we cannot make ti to > Fedora 36. Agreed. > For the sake of an open minded discussion, I am ignoring the fact that the > change owners themselves don't consider it doable (I think that it is > doable, but I honestly don't know if it is realistic with the current > resources). I'll just say what you and others said: rpm/dnf has *all* the information about the system, so it should be just a matter of adding plumbing to push that information to the right layer. Zbyszek _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
