Re: F37 Change: MinGW UCRT target (Self-Contained Change proposal)

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On Sat, Feb 05, 2022 at 01:27:48PM +0400, Marc-André Lureau wrote:
> Hi
> 
> On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 2:44 AM Richard W.M. Jones <rjones@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>     On Fri, Feb 04, 2022 at 05:20:31PM +0400, Marc-André Lureau wrote:
>     > Projects releasing for Windows should probably natively build and test
>     their
>     > releases with Msys2, and they can do so for msvcrt targets.
> 
>     This isn't a very useful suggestion.  We build using mingw precisely
>     to avoid touching Windows at all.
> 
> 
> Even freedesktop offers Windows CI instances where you can build natively.
> 
> I have honest doubts about projects doing releases for Windows without ever
> running it.

This isn't what I said - we don't want to use Windows to build the
package (rhsrvany is the package in this case).  We do test it in a
Windows VM before release.  If it were to fail -- I don't recall it
ever failing actually, so this is theoretical -- then we'd go back to
the Fedora mingw environment to fix it.  What I don't want is to have
to use a Windows environment to build the package.

>     I'm a little confused about the thread though.  If we use mingw32-*
>     after this change, does it still use msvcrt?
> 
> 
> There is no change on the existing mingw32 and mingw64 targets. Did you read
> the proposal? :)

I did read it yes, but later messages in the thread confused things.
If we're not touching the mingw32 target, at least for now, then
that's fine.  Eventually I guess when absolutely no one is using
Windows 7 and doesn't want to use V2V to convert those guests we can
drop the 32 bit / msvcrt stuff.

Rich.

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