I don't think we need to go too deep on this cloud-init vs Ignition thread; but you have a great message here and I just want to clarify some points, everything else you said here is fair/accurate/relevant from my PoV. On Wed, Jan 5, 2022, at 10:41 AM, David Duncan wrote: > In most of those > cases it has mostly been replaced in an effort to decrease boot time and > limit functionality to force the configuration time into the user space > instead of prior to instance service checks or replace the slower python > with a compiled language like go. In the case of Ignition, that's not quite accurate. I was not personally involved in the creation of Ignition, but this document lays it all out: https://coreos.github.io/ignition/rationale/ In particular, I don't think the boot speed or programming languages were ever a big part of the argument. To pick one thing from that list, the Ignition philosopy of running in the initramfs meaning you avoid whole large classes of race conditions of trying to re-configure the system in the middle of boot was a primary component. (OK this does lead into the language thing a bit I guess because no one sane wants Python in their initramfs, but it's really not about speed) _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure