Michael Catanzaro wrote: > Hi, I have a question for the FESCo and Council candidates: do you > support allowing Fedora src-git repositories to be hosted on > gitlab.com, which a proprietary software git forge? IMHO (as a non-candidate), it is sad that this question has to be asked at all: Fedora has "Freedom" as one of its 4 core goals. Using proprietary infrastructure is inherently incompatible with that and should not even be up for discussion. So any candidate answering anything other than "hell no!" can absolutely not be voted for IMHO. But I wonder why we even need src-git at all. I have not seen any consensus for its introduction on this mailing list, and I do not see what it technically brings that dist-git does not. For those packages where Fedora is upstream, they should be hosted on pagure.io (and that should actually be a requirement: hosting Fedora-as-upstream projects on gitlab.com or even Microsoft GitHub should be an absolute no-go!) and packaged in dist-git. For those packages where Fedora is *not* upstream, Fedora should not be in the business of shipping a source repository at all. Keeping the upstream code on one hand and the packaging, including patches, on the other hand separate is best practice that clearly identifies what, if any, changes to the upstream code have been applied in downstream packaging. But *if* it is decided that a src-git is needed at all, it needs to be hosted by Fedora, on Fedora-controlled infrastructure, using only Free (as in Speech) Software. The same standards should be applied to dist-git, to projects for which Fedora is upstream, and to any other Fedora infrastructure. (And to me, "Fedora-controlled infrastructure" also includes the hardware. The use of Amazon cloud services for Copr is a problem, too.) So do not expect me to waste any voting points on any candidate who does not answer Michael Catanzaro's question with a clear "NO". Kevin Kofler _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure