On Tue, Nov 23, 2021, at 4:28 PM, James Cassell wrote: > Will things be slower than native ostree? The only thing that will be less efficient is wire transfer as of right now. But we're going to be working on that. > I've got no problem with the capability being added, but I do wonder, > Why not rojig, aka native RPMs plus a special metadata RPM, aka jigdo > for ostree? Ah yes. I spent like 2 solid months working on all that only to have it not actually be used... So backing up a level, really the question is: What is the "center of gravity"? Is it rpms, or ostree, or containers? This Change isn't answering that question decisively, but it is a large move closer to OCI/Docker containers. > We've already got great RPM infrastructure. Plus we could > get rid of countme.timer and instead ride the rpm-md connection like > the RPM-based variants do. Mmm, I don't see a big problem with having a distinct rpm-ostree-countme.timer, it's not a lot of code. But your reply is so far skipping over really the biggest change: making it a first class operation to build *derived* images using any Docker/OCI build system. For a lot of people that will be Dockerfile, but if you follow the CoreOS proposal we are actively discussing a more declarative/intelligent frontend. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure