On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 10:44:25PM +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 10:07 PM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski > <dominik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, 17 November 2021 at 18:58, Peter Robinson wrote: > > [...] > > > What else is there that people care about in Fedora that's only i686? > > > > There are some old proprietary games with i686-only binaries. I'll check > > which packages are required by the ones I have. > > I think the easy answer here is, indeed, "games". And for some Fedora > users, that might not be an important use case. (snip) I'm not much of a gamer myself, but I think this *is* an important use case that we simply have to cater to, if we want to be more than a niche distro. We already take a big hit on not having patent-encumbered codecs by default, and not being able to run Wine or Steam would be a bad label to have. I'll share my own use case too: I use the 32 bit libs to test compilation of programs. Most often systemd, but others too on occasion. It works like this: after installing i686 versions of the build deps, PKG_CONFIG_LIBDIR=/usr/lib/pkgconfig meson build-32 -Dc_args=-m32 \ -Dc_link_args=-m32 -Dcpp_args=-m32 -Dcpp_link_args=-m32 && \ ninja -C build-32 I will also use armv7-*.fedorainfracloud.org as another 32-bit arch, but it's better to test for i686 too. If Fedora drops i686 multilib, it'll be much harder to do this kind of upstream development of C projects. > Two Hundred (or even make it 300) packages - that's around 1% of the > whole corpus of Fedora packages (with almost 23000 source packages in > rawhide). > Which I think confirms my suspicion that just building *everything* > for i686 is 99% wasteful ... +1. Zbyszek _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure