Re: Fedora 35 - gedit

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On Tue, 2021-11-09 at 12:49 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2021-11-09 at 18:59 +0100, Michael J. Baars wrote:
> > Hi Adam,
> > 
> > I didn't install any update, apparently the update is already included with
> > the release version of Fedora 35, because it won't install from the command
> > line and the versions from the build match the versions from the release.
> > This is a fresh installation of Fedora 35 Workstation, done the day before
> > yesterday.
> > 
> > So, with the updates INCLUDED instead of installed, the mouse pointer and
> > the cursor (still) act strange when running gedit. When I try to move the
> > mouse into position and click to move the cursor into position, for example
> > to cut and past text, both OFTEN (say 50% of these attempts) end up on a
> > completely different line number, sometimes even selecting some text in the
> > process.
> > 
> > The updates as provided by the build and as included in the release version
> > of Fedora 35, do therefore not function as intended.
> > 
> > Precise sequence of steps:
> > 1) turn on computer
> > 2) open text files from file manager
> > 3) start editing
> > 
> > Nothing more, nothing less, nothing out of the ordinary either. The problem
> > had never reveiled itself on another one of my computers, which is still
> > running Fedora 32 Workstation. It's definitely new, impossible to overlook,
> > and impossible to ignore when your used to working with gedit as your
> > default editor as I am.
> 
> Thanks. So:
> 
> 1. That update was not included in the release. The update was created
> on 2021-11-04, which is *after* the release happened (on 2021-11-02),
> let alone when the release was signed off (2021-10-28) or actually
> built (I think that was 2021-10-25). The release has gnome-shell-41.0-
> 4.fc35 and mutter-41.0-4.fc35 . You can see this for yourself at 
> https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/35/Everything/x86_64/os/Packages/g/
> and
> https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/35/Everything/x86_64/os/Packages/m/
> . This is just a note, as long as you have the updated versions and
> have rebooted since installing them, it doesn't really matter where you
> got them.
> 
> 2. The problem you are having is not the problem the update was
> intended to fix. I know this because I was the person who noticed the
> problem and backported the fix. That problem did not occur simply by
> opening a file and editing it, it always involved switching focus
> between the text editor and other windows. There are more details on
> the bug the update actually fixes at
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/issues/4647 . The update
> definitely did fix that problem, because I had it before and I don't
> have it now.
> 
> 3. The problem you're hitting now is not likely a general one, or else
> a lot more people would likely be complaining about it, given how
> "impossible to overlook" (your words) it is. It's not happening to me,
> for instance. gedit behaves just fine for me. Unless anyone else can
> reproduce it by just running gedit, we still need to figure out what
> exactly in your configuration is triggering the problem. Maybe you
> could record a video of it? That might show something that helps.
> 
> Thanks!

Hi Adam,

1) Ok, glad you noticed. The updates possibly differ in version, while the version numbers of mutter and gnome-shell remain the same.
3) Mikel Olasagasti immediately let me know that he experienced the same problem on Fedora 34, uncommon as the problem might seem.

2) I think it is the same problem, although I didn't have the chance yesterday to test the scroll-wheel. It's even getting stranger, because today the problem
refuses to manifest itself. I don't really like the idea of people taking over my back-end, but this is probably one of those cases where someone wants you to
know that he's in control of the back-end. That makes working with computers very hard and often very unpleasant. On the one hand, some engineer is doing his
very best to come up with error correcting codes for memory modules, and than on the other hand, some hacker is doing his very best to bend pointers to his will
unasked for.

Regards,
Mischa.
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