Re: F36 Change: Drop NIS(+) support from PAM (System-Wide Change proposal)

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On Thu, 2021-10-28 at 10:28 -0400, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote:
> Stephen John Smoogen <smooge@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
> 
> > Mainly because it is the authentication service equivalent of
> > telnet**. Very simple to set up, very simple to use, and very easy to
> > steal all the information about logins, users, and setups. [...]
> 
> ... well, compared to what?  LDAP commonly distributes crypttext
> passwords and databases with about the same amount of discernment and
> theft-enablement as ypserv.  Plaintext as in telnet makes an appearance
> nowhere but with yppasswd, AFAIK, which is nonessential.

LDAP is normally deployed on a secure channel (TLS or GSSAPI), that the
client can cryptographically check.

NIS is a clear text protocol that can be trivially MitMed to provide
arbitrary information to the target system.

Also generally LDAP *does not* in fact distribute passwords, most
systems use the LDAP Bind operation to test a password and the LDAP
server does *not* provide access to password hashes.


I thin k it is legitimate to question whether it is yet time to drop
this obsolete protocol (NIS) on backwards compatibility grounds.
But on security grounds it is indefensible, don't go there.


Simo.

-- 
Simo Sorce
RHEL Crypto Team
Red Hat, Inc



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