On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 at 08:51, Michael Catanzaro <mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > What I just don't understand is why so much argument over a minuscule > disk space increase. We can argue over the best way to create > backtraces. But trying to step on the toes of other people who are > working on this problem just because their work requires a tiny > annotation in each binary seems weird. > My take from these conversations is that it is best to a) Not have Lennart's name tied to a request. That just pulls in all kinds of over-the-top statements where people will say 99.99% of the people won't use it without any evidence. b) Don't mention disk space growth. You will get nothing about how you are bloating the operating system. ** c) Don't mention anything about making debugging or security easier. Anyone who has a workflow will see that as a challenge to their own choices. This change has all three and so is going to be yelled at over and over again. Instead you should make a change request which will give you all those but has some other item tied to it. ** We do not have these conversations that the linux-firmware over time has eaten more disk space or that other compiler choices have done even worse. It only comes up when people ask for permission versus just doing it. -- Stephen J Smoogen. I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Flame wars in sci.astro.orion. I have seen SPAM filters overload because of Godwin's Law. All those moments will be lost in time... like posts on a BBS... time to shutdown -h now. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure