Hi Lennart, On Thu, 2021-10-28 at 09:56 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > But as someone who's at the upstream receiving end of bug > reports > of one major project I can tell you that MiniDebugInfo is literally > the best thing since sliced bread: in systemd upstream the bug reports > we get from Fedora are *ridiculously* more useful than bug reports > from any other distro, since the default way how things are reported > already carry backtraces that are quite useful. It's a complete mess > with other distros, since we have to ask people to come back with > proper backtraces with debuginfo installed, and only a subset of > people is willing to bother with that. Bug reports from ArchLinux, > Debian, Gentoo and so on are total crap by default compared to > Fedora. This is good to hear (the Fedora part). Note that we have moved all the symbol/debuginfo manipulation done in Fedora into upstream rpm first and have now spun out that part into a separate project "debugedit" that rpm (and flatpak) now uses and that we hope other distros/packaging tools will adopt: https://sourceware.org/debugedit/ debugedit provides programs and scripts for creating debuginfo and source file distributions, collect build-ids and rewrite source paths in DWARF data for debugging, tracing and profiling. So please point other distros/packagers our way and we'll try to work with them to make these tools as useful to them as they are to Fedora. Thanks, Mark _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
