Re: [RFC] Remove supoort for NIS(+) from PAM

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On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 12:42, Frank Ch. Eigler <fche@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Stephen John Smoogen <smooge@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
>
> >> > The places I have seen it still being used are in Universities run by
> >> > people who learned sysadmin in the 1990's and early 2000's. It is a
> >> > light weight system which is simple to set up [...]
> >>
> >> For those people who like simple to set up and working systems but are
> >> willing to consider upgrading if it's also simple and will keep working,
> >> is there a NIS->$whatever migration document in fedora someplace?
> >
> > I don't think anyone has come up with an agreed upon $whatever that a
> > majority of people like. There is LDAP but that isn't light. There are
> > kerberos but that isn't easy.
>
> "light" in terms of CPU/network, who cares.  "light" in terms of
> simplicity and maintenance, you have my attention.  If there is no such
> gadget available, then please let's keep NIS around.
>

The issue is that no one has written anything as simple as ypserv's
Makefile in the 35+ years yp has been around. Most of the replacements
start looking at all the problems yp brings with it from sending
things in plain text, ability to spoof services and controllers,
ability to spoof user/hosts, and a flood of other things.. and 'fixes
them'. Those fixes add in complexity and it goes back to 'this is
stupid, keep yp'.

The reason I brought up OpenID is that it is the only thing simpler
than YP.. You don't have to deal with any of the hassles of id because
you don't own it anymore.


> > And honestly the cool kids only want web logins these days as servers
> > are a pain and why not just login into Google/Facebook/Microsoft and
> > let them deal with all that setup.
>
> (OK but seriously that's not a fedora matter.  Well, or rather, I'd love
> to have a passwd/nss backed openid gadget.  Is that ipsilon?)



-- 
Stephen J Smoogen.
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Flame wars in
sci.astro.orion. I have seen SPAM filters overload because of Godwin's
Law. All those moments will be lost in time... like posts on a BBS...
time to shutdown -h now.
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