On Mon, Sep 06, 2021 at 05:59:41PM -0500, Zebediah Figura wrote: > Thanks everyone for their input. > > There seems to be a consensus that Fedora would prefer that we use > their MinGW dynamic libraries. However, this leaves a couple of > questions: > > * As I described in [1], we *may* be able to hack things in the Wine > loader such that we can use unmodified dynamic libraries. However, > it's not fully clear yet that it's feasible. If it turns out to be > infeasible, what preferences does Fedora have? (Renamed dynamic > libraries shipped separately, shipped as part of Wine, static > libraries, etc...) Adding -static subpackages is the easiest option from our point of view. As I mentioned in the previous email this would mean adjusting an existing spec such as: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/mingw-gnutls/blob/rawhide/f/mingw-gnutls.spec so that it builds the static library. It's a simple and obvious change. But can Wine use the static library built this way unmodified? And are there any other implications versus using a DLL? > * Since most other distributions don't ship any mingw libraries > (yet), and since Fedora doesn't ship all of the libraries we need > yet either, we will probably need to include code in wine to fall > back to imported sources or submodules. Is this acceptable to be > used in Fedora, at least on a temporary basis? There is a bundling policy: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/#bundling As a general rule of thumb it's better if the upstream package can be either configured (or maybe automatically) to unbundle those dependencies for which system equivalents exist. eg: ./configure --without-bundled-gnutls would use the system mingw-gnutls. Without that flag it might use a bundled version that it carries along. The bundling policy matters because of security concerns. I would say the other thing about bundling: Please don't add private patches to the bundled libraries! Huge pain for distributors because it effectively means we have no idea what is being bundled, which again has big security implications when someone has to work out if some bundled library is vulnerable to a CVE. Get the patches to the upstream projects. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming and virtualization blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com Fedora Windows cross-compiler. Compile Windows programs, test, and build Windows installers. Over 100 libraries supported. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MinGW _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure