Re: F35 3x slower boot than F34

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> Am 05.09.2021 um 09:32 schrieb Samuel Sieb <samuel@xxxxxxxx>:
> 
> On 2021-09-05 12:19 a.m., Peter Boy wrote:
>> Much to my chagrin, you describe the biggest problem in Fedora for years and the one why Fedora is falling further and further behind among distributions. The problem overshadows all that many positive features that otherwise distinguish Fedora.
> 
> How is Fedora falling behind?

I watch Distrowatch in an occasional way. It is certainly not the most reliable indicator, unquestioningly. But is is one among others. Currently Fedora ranks 10th, one place ahead of Suse, a distro that has long been considered nearly "dead" and has suffered greatly under Novell. And if you look at sites like stackexchange or serverfault, it's very rarely about Fedora.


>  In what way?  What problems have you actually had with selinux?  

see 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1900869
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1900888

Debian (selinux variant) solved the issue a long time ago. I'm sure our maintainers do what they can and don't take any issue lightly. As Sam wrote it has grown into a conceptual issue.


> Yes, there appears to currently be a slowdown caused by selinux *in an unreleased version*.  I'm sure it will be fixed before F35 is released.

I’m sure, too. With my comments, I (and possibly Sam) was not solely concerned with the slowdown problem. This is rather an expression of a larger problem (overloaded maintainers, missing / insufficient information, outdated documentation, etc) that should be addressed. 

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