Re: libc_malloc_debug.so vs .so.0 in glibc 2.34

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On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 10:42:32AM +0530, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 2:52 AM Richard W.M. Jones <rjones@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Anyway this is not the reason why I'm writing this email on Fedora
> > devel list.  In the Fedora package we have:
> >
> >   $ rpm -qf /usr/lib64/libc_malloc_debug.so
> >   glibc-devel-2.34-1.fc35.x86_64
> >   $ rpm -qf /usr/lib64/libc_malloc_debug.so.0
> >   glibc-2.34-1.fc35.x86_64
> >
> > I'm wondering why it was decided to put the symlink and the file in
> > the two different packages?
> >
> > Is it intended that end users use:
> >
> >   LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib64/libc_malloc_debug.so.0   # (1)
> 
> This one is correct.

Thanks - I made this change to nbdkit:

https://gitlab.com/nbdkit/nbdkit/-/commit/8972831aa2a32d4b5820465d37c1827eb76450e4

Will the .0 ever change?

...
> > If it's (2) then that's a symlink to (1), so why have the possibility
> > of installing only the glibc package thus getting only the file
> > /usr/lib64/libc_malloc_debug.so.0 which is not useful on its own?
> >
> > Also is this feature intended for developers (glibc-devel) or everyone
> > (glibc)?  (My preference is "everyone" - we've found that asking bug
> > reporters to enable MALLOC_CHECK_ in an ad hoc way can be a good way
> > to see if a bug is a memory corruption problem.)
> 
> The intent is to separate debugging from core functionality to improve
> security and performance (and make it easier for us to improve malloc
> in future but that's unrelated in this context), so it will likely end
> up in glibc-utils (that's where mtrace is) or its own package.  That
> will give administrators the option to remove libc_malloc_debug.so.0
> from the system.  We (i.e. glibc package maintainers) are yet to agree
> on the right place for this, mainly due to forgetting about it after
> the mass rebuild.

Makes sense, thanks.

Rich.

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