On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 10:27:42AM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 16. 08. 21 9:00, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 16. 08. 21 0:29, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 11:43:48AM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > > On 14. 08. 21 18:19, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > > It makes me wonder if we should consider letting 32bit arm go... > > > > > (insert pitchforks and torches). > > > > > > > > Let's propose it and see what people say? As a package maintainer, I would > > > > certainly appreciate this. > > > > > > > > I can draft a change proposal next week. > > > > > > How about we give time for the iot and arm folks who likely have not > > > seen this yet to chime in. :) > > > > I was planning to ask them directly. > > IoT: https://pagure.io/fedora-iot/issue/47 > > ARM: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/arm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/thread/YC2LYBJSFKDAVBUJAIFQCCBS5VLW5TUB/ FYI, I also asked in the weekly arm status meeting: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/fedora_arm_and_aarch64_status_meeting/fedora_arm_and_aarch64_status_meeting.2021-08-17-15.00.log.html TLDR version: ... 15:36:40 <nirik> So, in the devel list thread where people were mad about that oom / kojid/ lpae thing it was brought up that perhaps we shoud look at dropping 32bit arm. I get the sense personally that it's too soon, but do we have any idea how popular 32bit arm stuff is now? is iot using it for anything? or is there other big uses that should be known? Or has everything moved pretty solidly to 64 bit now? 15:38:42 <pwhalen> nirik: I've had some discussions about planning to deprecate 32-bit, largely coming from the lack of hardware on the horizon. 15:38:48 <pbrobinson> yes, we have an IoT image 15:39:03 <jlinton> The flock presentation had a significant number of armv7 installs. 15:39:07 <pbrobinson> it is being discussed but there's still some interest in it 15:39:13 <nirik> I think we would want to give it a long notice... ie, not just decide and next release... but think a few ahead... 15:39:31 <pbrobinson> right and I've been thinking ahead already about some of this 15:40:03 <pbrobinson> in the general community there's still a lot of arm32 devices around that get used 15:40:07 <nirik> ok, fair enough. Just wanted to get a sense of usage 15:40:14 <pbrobinson> and they're *cheap* 15:40:34 <jlinton> I personally think the lift on armv7 is going to get greater since !debian has basically dropped all 32-bit targets (eg x86). ... kevin
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