On Saturday, July 17, 2021 9:08:48 PM CEST Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 9:19 AM Stephen John Smoogen <smooge@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 at 17:59, Pavel Raiskup <praiskup@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > We touched this topic several times before in our team. Perhaps we should move > > > on and do it... it would simplify a development (the yum/dnf hacks, > > > legacy systemd-nspawn hacks, podman requirement for building Fedora, etc.). > > > > > > I created an issue [1], can you please vote there if you are concerned? If you > > > have a good argument for keeping the support, please write here or there (or > > > both). > > > > > > [1] https://github.com/rpm-software-management/mock/issues/755 > > > > > > > First off, what does this mean: > > > > 1. you can't build EL7 packages anymore with mock? AKA we would need > > to stop building EPEL7 > > 2. you can't use "mock" on systems after the XYZ version? > > > > Going from the graphs of growth, most of EL growth has been in EL7 > > since last year. That said.. I expect that if there is a version which > > is 'known' to be the last working version of mock then people needing > > it can 'keep' that version on those systems as long as they need. > > I've done backports of mock for some operating systems, to get updated > versions of mock-core-configs on Amazon Linux 2 for example. You can > still compile older operating systems on modern operating systems. The > bigger problem is operating systems like Amazon Linux 2, or RHEL, > where the basic software repositories are not publicly accessible to > use on other systems. Either you have to use mock on those operating > systems to build for them, or you need to set up an internal yum > mirror with tools ike > https://github.com/nkadel/nkadel-rsync-scripts/blob/master/reposync-rhel-6.sh > . We can build RHEL 7 just fine on RHEL 8 or on Fedora, without a local mirror. https://github.com/rpm-software-management/mock/wiki/Feature-rhelchroots If we faced with bottlenecks, going with bootstrap chroot or even bootstrap image should help nowadays. > EL 8 had its adoption poisoned by some very unwelcome choices by Red > Hat. That's a long rant of its own, one I've stated before in the > CentOS groups. But it means that EL 7 is going to be around a lot > longer than people may wish. If we can keep mock working for EL 7 for > longer, I'd be all on board. I especially want it for Amazon Linux 2, > where I provided some support for the Samba developers to port current > Samba releases to that EL 7 based but somewhat distinct environment. > (python3 is python 3.7 there, and they have python 3.8 available: > stuff built for RHEL 7 or CentOs 7 does not behave well there!) The Mock on EL 7 should stay working for the extended life period. Just that it would not get updates with all bugfixes and new features. Pavel > Nico Kadel-Garcia > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure > _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
