On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 05:23:08PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 10:21:05AM +0000, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > Hi, > > > > systemd has systemd.status_unit_format= / [Manager].StatusUnitFormat= > > / -Dstatus-unit-format-default= option to use unit names instead of the > > Description in messages on the kernel console and in logs: > > > > - Jun 20 22:04:48 krowka systemd[1]: Started Rule-based Manager for Device Events and Files. > > + Jun 20 22:04:48 krowka systemd[1]: Started systemd-udevd.service. > > > > I find this more convenient because it's briefer, so it fits better on > > a terminal, but primarily because I can select&paste the unit name for > > further lookup. When Description is used, and I'm not familiar with > > the unit, I'll often use grep first to figure out what the unit name > > actually is. Finally, unit Descriptions are often not very good, and > > the name is at least as informative… > > IIUC, the descriptions are not translated / localized. So perhaps > the unit file names are more meaningful for non-english speakers > too ? Logs are not localized in general, because they are "global", shared between all users. This is a valid point: I'm pretty sure that 99% of people will immediately have a rough idea what lighttppd.service is. But "Lightning Fast Webserver With Light System Requirements"? This baroque description will be even more confusing to non-native speakers. Zbyszek _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure