Hi, On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 12:21 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi, > > systemd has systemd.status_unit_format= / [Manager].StatusUnitFormat= > / -Dstatus-unit-format-default= option to use unit names instead of the > Description in messages on the kernel console and in logs: > > - Jun 20 22:04:48 krowka systemd[1]: Started Rule-based Manager for Device Events and Files. > + Jun 20 22:04:48 krowka systemd[1]: Started systemd-udevd.service. > > I find this more convenient because it's briefer, so it fits better on > a terminal, but primarily because I can select&paste the unit name for > further lookup. When Description is used, and I'm not familiar with > the unit, I'll often use grep first to figure out what the unit name > actually is. Finally, unit Descriptions are often not very good, and > the name is at least as informative… I would vote for unit-names over description, as I can use them to search information in the logs or in docs. But I wonder why don't we consider having both unit name and description Could something like Jun 20 22:04:48 krowka systemd[1]: Starting systemd-udevd.service - Rule-based Manager for Device Events... Jun 20 22:04:48 krowka systemd[1]: Started systemd-udevd.service. be an option? You mention brevity, but do we really need to save space here? > Would people be opposed to making this the default (setting > -Dstatus-unit-format-default=name in build options)? People who like > the old default could set StatusUnitFormat=description in systemd.conf > > Zbyszek > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure -- Aleksandra Fedorova bookwar on Libera Chat _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure