Re: Fedora Source-git SIG report #1 (June 2021)

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On June 24, 2021 6:08:17 PM UTC, "Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek" <zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 03:48:54PM +0200, Tomas Tomecek wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 12:41 PM Miro Hrončok <mhroncok@xxxxxxxxxx>
>wrote:
>> >
>> > On 24. 06. 21 11:16, Tomas Tomecek wrote:
>> > > ## Choosing git forge to host source-git repositories
>> > > We need to find a home for all the source-git repositories. This
>is
>> > > actually a really hard task because we have many options
>(github.com,
>> > > gitlab.com, pagure.io, src.fedoraproject.org, something custom or
>> > > on-premise) and different expectations: some projects already
>have
>> > > repos set up on different platforms while Pagure is the primary
>forge
>> > > now. Since the CPE team is investigating GitLab as a forge, it's
>even
>> > > harder for us to figure out the primary forge. We may end up
>> > > supporting both actually: pagure.io and gitlab.com. What are your
>> > > thoughts on this topic? Would you prefer pagure.io or gitlab.com
>> > > More info:
>> > > * https://pagure.io/fedora-source-git/sig/issue/1
>> > > * https://pagure.io/fedora-source-git/sig/issue/7
>> >
>> > I would expect that since the soruce git is just an intermediate
>thing,
>> > supporting "any forge" is nice to have, but hard. I'd start with
>some common
>> > options (Pagure + 1 other) and see where you'll get.
>> 
>> Yep, that's exactly what I'd like us to do. As soon as we have the
>> service which accepts processes events up and running, it shouldn't
>be
>> that hard to teach it new fedora-messaging messages or webhook
>> payloads.
>> 
>> > > ## High-level workflow proposal up for review
>> > > Hunor proposed a high-level workflow linked below and I strongly
>> > > recommend reading it. We have also started discussing many
>details in
>> > > the process, such as getting archives: should we generate one
>from the
>> > > source-git repo or use the official release archive from
>upstream?
>> >
>> > One thing to consider is that the upstream tarballs might be
>cryptographically
>> > signed and packages should verify the signature in %prep.
>> 
>> This is a very good point - in such a case, we should always pull the
>> official upstream tarball instead of generating a new one downstream.
>
>Hmm, but how would that work? I thought that the whole point of
>source-git is to build from a commit that contains some upstream 
>version + downstream patches + downstream distro config like the spec
>file,
>and that the build step of applying downstream patches just doesn't
>exist.
>If you reuse the upstream tarball, then by necessity those downstream
>patches need to be serialized and applied on top like in dist-git. So
>you lose the property that the checkout from version control is *the*
>source you build, but you also lose the property that the source you
>build is what was signed (since patches are applied).

But if the tooling automatically creates the "correct" srpm for you (e.g. either upstream tarball + patches or a git tarball), then I'd consider that a valuable improvement already. Sure, it might not be perfect, but it would help.
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