On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 10:26 AM Justin Forbes <jmforbes@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 3:23 PM Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 02:57:17PM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > > >We'll at least gather information about capabilities of Fedora > > > >users hardware. > > > Telemetry is evil. It must not be allowed. > > > > Well, that's certainly A Position. I don't think it's anything nearly so > > absolute, though, and depends on what, who, how, why, and a host of other > > things. And "it can help us answer questions like this for our community" is > > a pretty non-evil "why". > > I think there can be a lot of benefit in anonymized hardware data (not > mandatory). It does help answer questions like this, but more > importantly, it would make a lot of the kernel work a bit easier, or > at least more focused. It answers questions like, "should we enable > these drivers as they are likely to be used?" or "can we disable these > drivers because no one is using them?". It is also very helpful in > working out bug priority in drivers. A lot of people never bother > filing bugs, and are happy to keep booting a known good kernel since > we allow parallel installs. If we get a few users chiming in, and > realize the hardware in question is used by a significant chunk of > users, it would tell me that perhaps that should take priority over a > bug which impacts hardware with considerably fewer users. Yes, you > have to be extremely careful about what data you collect, and how that > data is handled, but if done correctly, there are a lot of benefits. I agree. I'm curious how many folks have TPMs at all, if they're 1.2 enabled or 2.0; whether the system is Secure Boot capable, enabled or disabled; whether the firmware is BIOS, UEFI, coreboot. -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
