On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 3:23 PM Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 02:57:17PM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > >We'll at least gather information about capabilities of Fedora > > >users hardware. > > Telemetry is evil. It must not be allowed. > > Well, that's certainly A Position. I don't think it's anything nearly so > absolute, though, and depends on what, who, how, why, and a host of other > things. And "it can help us answer questions like this for our community" is > a pretty non-evil "why". I think there can be a lot of benefit in anonymized hardware data (not mandatory). It does help answer questions like this, but more importantly, it would make a lot of the kernel work a bit easier, or at least more focused. It answers questions like, "should we enable these drivers as they are likely to be used?" or "can we disable these drivers because no one is using them?". It is also very helpful in working out bug priority in drivers. A lot of people never bother filing bugs, and are happy to keep booting a known good kernel since we allow parallel installs. If we get a few users chiming in, and realize the hardware in question is used by a significant chunk of users, it would tell me that perhaps that should take priority over a bug which impacts hardware with considerably fewer users. Yes, you have to be extremely careful about what data you collect, and how that data is handled, but if done correctly, there are a lot of benefits. Justin _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
