Re: When is pappl going to be good enough to replace cups?

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On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 01:27:03AM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> All this is of no use if the printer does not actually implement that 
> though.

Of course.  That's where this whole "printer application" thingey comes in.

> I do not see how that is the common use case. Why would I want to print from 
> my telephone? I do not even normally print from my notebook!

I don't think it's controversial to say that one needs to print from 
whatever computing devices one uses.

> Well, if I want to configure the printer, I need to know what to point my 
> browser at. But sure, if a dialog gives me a link, that is a way. Though it 
> means yet another layer of indirection (bringing up the dialog first, only 
> to get redirected to a web interface).

Running 'ippfind' will show you the list of all IPP-capable printers 
that are advertising themselves through mDNS, and the URI they can be 
reached at.

> My desktop and my notebook, i.e., the devices I actually SSH to at times 
> (from each other, usually), do have hardcoded IPs, yes. (And I also use X11 
> forwarding when I SSH, so Wayland is a non-starter.)

X11 forwarding through SSH while running Wayland seems to work just fine 
for me.  *shrug*

> More often than not, the "PDF-based print flow" just means that something 
> client-side converts the PostScript to PDF before sending it to the shiny 
> new "PDF-based print flow", only to have something in the driver filters 
> convert the PDF back to PostScript before doing anything else.

This hasn't been the case since Fedora 19 (Spring 2013), which, as part 
of CUPS 1.6, switched to a PDF-native flow.  Postscript is only used on 
the edges, ie if the printer requires it or the application supplies it.  
pdftopdf transforms proved to be a lot more robust than pstops due to 
PDF's semantics being far better defined.

(Incidently, Fedora 19 is also when the switch to using mDNS for printer 
 discovery happened..)

 - Solomon
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