Re: [ELN] Proposal: ELN Extra

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On Fri, 2021-03-19 at 16:35 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> With the current way of things (that could possibly change), when
> EPEL 10 is 
> created, ELN is long gone in the RHEL 11 world.
> 
> I could only imagine this scheme:
> 
> ELN       ->  CentOS Stream N ->  RHEL N
> ELN Extra  -> EPEL N Next      -> EPEL N
> 
> (With heroic efforts to align the arrows on the EPEL line to happen
> very soon 
> after the arrows on the RHEL line.)
> 
> Even if we somehow manage do this, what benefits does it bring over:
> 
> ELN              ->  CentOS Stream N -> RHEL N
> Rawhide/Branched  -> EPEL N Next      -> EPEL N
> 
> ?

There's two parts to this. On one hand, a package in eln-extra will be
continuously built against ELN, and if the build breaks fixes will be
pushed to Rawhide. This means that when the time comes to branch for
the new EPEL, it's likely to work out of the box.

The other point (and the one I'm specifically interested in) is that
this makes it easier to do continuous testing using ELN. Specifically,
my plan is to deploy ELN on a small number of systems and use it to
spot potential issues and changes that would otherwise only show up
when one starts testing the *next* CentOS Stream release. Ideally, this
will make it easier to get stuff addressed and fixed in Rawhide, long
before the next CentOS Stream even branches, which should results in
benefits to both Fedora and CentOS Stream.

However, to do this effectively I would also need to have a subset of
EPEL available, as in reality we (as I suspect most people) always
deploy CentOS Stream together with EPEL. So that's where the idea of
having ELN builds for (a subset of) packages currently in EPEL started
from, which then evolved in the eln-extra proposal that Troy posted
here.

Cheers
Davide
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