Re: Don't update to the latest f33!

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On 2/16/21 9:02 AM, Troy Curtis Jr wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 10:02 PM Dominique Martinet <asmadeus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:asmadeus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>     Michael Catanzaro wrote on Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 08:46:57PM -0600:
>     > We removed the fallbacks due to complaints from users who didn't want DNS
>     > ever going to Cloudflare or Google. So the lack of fallback is expected and
>     > should not be reported as a bug.
> 
>     setting DNS= (or DNS="") explicitely should not fallback, I agree with
>     that. There are people who want no DNS whatsoever and that should be
>     configurable.
> 
>     But if extract_first_word() returned a non-empty string and
>     manager_add_dns_server_by_string fails (for all iterations of the loop),
>     it should definitely kick some fallback in -- the user obviously wanted
>     *something*, it just doesn't work.
> 
> 
> Steve's situation provides the perfect example for why a fallback is likely undesirable. It sounds like his
> configuration never worked. There were explicit DNS values configured that weren't being used, yet
> he never noticed because it fell back to something that seemed to work. It would take a deeper and
> deliberate look before the user realized the desired configuration wasn't applied. It is better to error
> than guess in many cases.
I agree... ignoring syntax error or parsing error just does not seem
like the appropriate thing to do... Error out! Tell me what is broken
so I can fix it!!

steved.  
>  
> 
> 
>     > I think we have larger issues with DNS server assignment on cloud servers,
>     > which I've reported as https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/10 <https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/10>. But I also
>     > notice Steve's case is different, since he really does have some static DNS
>     > configuration, just using commas where spaces are required. So seems like a
>     > misconfiguration by the cloud provider?
> 
>     Not sure where the configuration snippet with comma comes from but yes
>     ultimately it's "just" a configuration error.
>     Nevertheless, a config that somehow worked until a recent update through
>     fallback, I don't think we want more unhappy users :)
> 
>     -- 
>     Dominique
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