Vít Ondruch <vondruch@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: > Thx everybody for their responses and sorry for such controversial > topic. I am not going to propose this upstream after all. However I have > few takeaways: > > 1) I see responses of Fedora long timers and I understand that you > have polished workflows. But I really think that for newcomers, mock > should be the preferred way. I'd love to see documentation adjusted to > prefer mock everywhere. > > 2) I would really love you to stop using VMs for your build/testing. > With exception of Kernel and Kernel related issues, the argument of > "mock being slow" can't stand. Every VM will be more resources hungry > then mock, slowing every your task. > > 3) The argument of mock being slow can't stand, because in one of my > examples I posted elsewhere in this thread, I picked up the simplest > package I could and the build took 7 seconds. This is certainly not > slow, in this time you can't even switch to your email client to check > your emails. So far on this thread, you've asked feedback on a proposal, and then when provided with feedback you didn't like, repeatedly argued with our comments and told us we're wrong. This is not a good way to engage with feedback. In particular, *numerous* people have told you that mock builds are slow for us. Instead of telling us that we're wrong about our own experience because it doesn't match yours, make an effort to understand what the difference is between them. Or accept it for what it is: feedback that *you asked for*. Thanks, --Robbie
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