Re: Radeon with 64k page size (ppc64 and others)

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On 07/01/2021 12:35, Dan Horák wrote:
> Hi Daniel,
> 
> On Wed, 6 Jan 2021 14:11:37 +0100
> Daniel Pocock <daniel@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>>
>> We did some more troubleshooting of AMD Radeon issues on ppc64
>>
>> As with Nouveau, it looks like a change from 64k to 4k page size got it
>> working again with RX 5700.  I suspect it will be similar for RX 6800 if
>> we can get some of them, they are a good complement for the compute power.
>>
>> The issue is page size, not ppc64
> 
> are you talking about Maurizio's issue? When I was talking with the guy
> who fixed the Navi 10 driver for Power, he wasn't aware of any page
> size issues. But it sounds plausible.


Yes, it is in the Raptor forum

To save reading, I gave him the following in an apt repository:

- 5.9.6 kernel with 4k page size
- mesa 20.3
- deps for mesa (llvm-11, libdrm, ...)

He took the 2020-10-22 firmware snapshot from Debian unstable

He disabled Wayland, to use Xorg

It worked.

I'm hoping that exactly the same set of packages will work for me
whenever I can get my hands on an RX 6800 XT card.

As mentioned elsewhere in this thread and in various parts of the Raptor
forum, especially this[1] thread, there are a range of applications
where page size appears to have some impact.

I'd like to emphasize that there are a range of issues where page size
does not appear to be a factor, there are a backlog of these issues.
Therefore, emphasizing this quite strongly, I feel it is better for
people to run 4k page size on workstations from F-34 so we can clearly
flush out the PPC issues on 4k before we even begin to address issues
with 64k.  As examples, I have issues with Blender[2], Firefox[3] and
JPEGs in OBS[4] where page size has been eliminated but I also have
another issue[5] with Firefox, or maybe v4l2-loopback, where page size
is a factor.

Vikings and Raptor hope to sell a lot more of these systems when they go
live in 2021.  Vikings in particular has put great effort into a
German-engineering water cooling solution, there is a leaked photo in
the Raptor forum.  Personally, I already identified the traps in this
platform within hours of unboxing but I know a lot of the users,
including Fedora users, will benefit from a slightly softer landing on
POWER9.  I can't personally spend time following every issue through to
completion myself (unless somebody wants to offer me a bounty) but I try
to document them as well as I can both here and in the bug trackers.

Regards,

Daniel

1. https://forums.raptorcs.com/index.php/topic,200.msg1463.html
2. https://developer.blender.org/T80912
3. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1677216
4. https://developer.blender.org/T80912#1085758
5. https://forums.raptorcs.com/index.php/topic,200.msg1463.html#msg1463
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