Re: What is the most time consuming task for you as packager?

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On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 1:02 AM Chuck Anderson <cra@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 11:29:27PM +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> > I am looking for challenges for upcoming year - what I and my team should enhance. I have some ideas, but I want to hear
> > yours.
> >
> > What you - as Fedora packager - find most time consuming on packaging?
> > Where you will welcome more simplicity or automation?
>
> Looking up the latest guidelines and recommendations for packaging.
> It seems to be spread between the Wiki and "docs" site and it isn't
> always clear which one is correct.  Google searches may still find old
> or "draft" guidelines.  Not all are ported over to docs.fp.org, so you
> have to use the Wiki site for some content.  Wiki documents link to
> themselves, even when in some cases the Wiki version is out of date,
> replaced by docs.fp.org version.  There isn't always a warning or
> reminder that links to the correct version on docs.fp.org.  Or there
> is a redirect to the new site, but it doesn't link to the right
> content.
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines
>
> "The packaging guidelines have been moved out of the wiki. The current
> version of this document is located at
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/ . Please
> update your bookmarks."
>
> But say I search Google for "fedora perl packaging guidelines" I find this:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Perl
>
> Then there is a link on there to:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Packaging_guidelines
>
> Or search Google for "fedora packaging systemctl" finds this:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Systemd
>
> which has:
>
> Unit files in spec file scriptlets
>
> Information on proper handling of unit files in spec file scriptlets can be found here: Packaging:Scriptlets#Systemd
>
> but that links to:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Scriptlets#Systemd
>
> which redirects to:
>
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/Scriptlets/#Systemd
>
> which doesn't have a #Systemd anchor.  So you are dumped at the top of
> that page rather than at the section about Systemd which has an anchor
> of #_systemd instead.
>
> It would be nice if this could all be cleaned up, because right now it
> makes navigating the documentation a nightmare.

We (the Packaging Committee) know about this problem, and we've been
slowly working to get the migrated pages "verified" and to add
redirects from the old Wiki pages to the corresponding new docs.
However, this is a very time-consuming process (checking that all the
content has been migrated correctly, checking links, checking
formatting, etc), and it has somewhat stalled recently, because, ya
know, 2020.

https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/845

Fabio
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