On Mon, 07 Dec 2020 10:21:35 -0600 Michael Catanzaro <mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 7:33 am, James Szinger <jszinger@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > Undelivered -devel packages and modularity are killer anti-features > > of EL 8—it is way too hard to build the software I need. > > Honestly I don't think modularity is a serious problem for end users. > Missing -devel packages is unbelievably frustrating, though. And EPEL > just doesn't contain as much as Fedora does, in general. I find the modularity end-user documentation to be woefully inadequate, especially for developers. > So for personal servers... well, I've never seen Fedora Server broken > by automatic updates. I don't think I would use Fedora Server for > critical business infrastructure, but it works well enough for my > personal needs. The odds of encountering problems with Fedora are > simply way lower than the odds of discovering that EPEL lacks > something that I want, or an essential -devel package that doesn't > exist. I have found updates to Fedora server software to be less disruptive than the desktop updates. I also find many small updates easier to manage than a few big updates. Our sysadmin at work spent most of 2020 updating the server fleet from CentOS 6 to CentOS 8. My software was easy to deal with since I develop and test on Fedora. A good test suite is essential. Jim _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx