Re: The future of Fedora Server (was Re: Fedora 34 Change: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change))

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On 12/4/2020 12:35 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:

Anecdata which is as 'useful' as any other.

Most of the people I have dealt with in the last 4 years with Server have been using it mainly as a replacement for the Everything DVD and because it was the most 'un-opinionated' release of Fedora. It wasn't actually being used in any more of a server release as much as a 'get out of my way' while still using Fedora. 

For the people who were using it as servers, it was split between getting ready for the next RHEL/CentOS they would be deploying, they needed packages which were not in EPEL, or things like python/nodejs/etc was new enough for what they needed to run but wasn't in EL8.
 

It would be interesting to consider how Fedora Server use cases change over time during an EL release cycle.

For many server use cases where the box is NOT ephemeral, when CentOS and Fedora are similar, it's likely that CentOS is going to be a better-engineered and tested option. But as time goes on and the next EL release isn't either isn't announced or isn't stable enough to rely on, Fedora Server probably sees more use as a quasi-stable release base.. This fills a real need when your users are absolutely clamoring for things that aren't likely to be backported into the stable EL release and you don't want to have to send them into Ubuntu/Debian land (or have them grab an un-administered container off the shelf).

In fact, Fedora Server as a "not EL, but better than nothing as a temporarily stable platform" during these later periods could be a useful niche to fill. Bonus points for some of those extended support duration/stable discussions from a few years ago.

Ultimately, however, I feel like the use case of Fedora Server is inexorably tied to the RHEL/CentOS (or CentOS Stream) discussions. And a Fedora WG that tries to do long-term planning and positioning needs to be part of those overall discussions for the greater good of the RedHat ecosystem. Short term marketing is fine, but the different sides of RedHat need to be on the same page about this all.

-jc

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