It pains me to write this. I have been part of XEmacs upstream for over 20 years [1]. I worked on several features, fixed a lot of bugs [2], and really enjoyed working with the other XEmacs developers. But, as has happened to so many open source projects, the developers slowly trickled away until only a handful of us were left. I personally have only fixed a few bugs now and then since 2014, when I contributed my last feature (SSL/TLS support). Suffice it to say that upstream is all but dead. There are still a few commits now and then, but nothing much is happening. I think it is time, sadly, to start moving towards dropping XEmacs from Fedora. Given the number of XEmacs add-on packages in the repository, I think the first step should be to deprecate XEmacs so that no more are added. I know there are XEmacs users in the audience, because I still get bug reports now and then. How do you XEmacs users feel about this? If everybody is okay with this, I will submit a Change Proposal to deprecate the following packages: xemacs xemacs-packages-base xemacs-packages-extra neXtaw Footnotes: [1] My first commit is dated 1 Dec 2000, but I sent patches upstream prior to that. [2] Some of them were even bugs I hadn't written in the first place! -- Jerry James http://www.jamezone.org/ _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx