Re: summary of matrix/element chat discussion

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On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 07:29:41PM +0100, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
> On 04.12.2020 19:14, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > It doesn't seem possible that you mean literally copied from
> > https://chat.fedoraproject.org  tohttps://fedoraproject.org/; that's not the
> > way things work. Can you clarify the problem you're concerned about?
> 
> chat.fedoraproject.org is the hosted web version of the Element Matrix
> client. Users can use any other to login. This is completely optional.
> 
> fedoraproject.org is the main Matrix server with all user content.

Well, no. I would say 'matrix.fedoraproject.org' is the matrix server
run by element on our behaf? Or matrix.fedorapeople.org ?

> > Can you also clarify "can always be viewed"?
> 
> Matrix is similar to Git. When you join any room, all events and content
> will be copied to your homeserver.
> 
> For example #foobar:example.org contains pirated content. When you join it
> from your fedoraproject.org account, most of its contents will be copied to
> this server and can be viewed by direct hyperlinks (until the cache is
> purged).
> 
> The links will look like this:
> https://fedoraproject.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/example.org/kJsInSvRQWlSZIvpibVwMJki
> 
> > How would this help?
> 
> Most public services (GitHub, GitLab, etc.) use separate domains for the
> user content.
> 
> We need to discuss these potential legal issues with at least the Fedora
> Legal Team.

Yeah, we need to clarify some legal issues around it for sure. 

We could call it whatever makes the most sense, but I would expect this
to be user content with element handling issues like takedowns, etc.

kevin

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