On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 04:11:05PM +0100, Marius Schwarz wrote: > > Hi, > > as you may have heared, Fedora is now running on Pinephone and other > devices, that need bleeding edge versions to function. > > Status of Fedora Pine as of 15:15 CET > > Cams now working, but app needs rework > Mobile INET working > WIFI working > Touch working > SMS working > GPS working > Calls partly, "calls app" does not connect to pulseaudio. > Headphones ( sort of ) > Mali400 GPU support working ( MPV rulez ) Do note that this is a Fedora remix right? Since it's using a non fedora kernel + packages not in fedora. :) But we will get to a fedora spin someday. > > and with Gnome(38) instead of Phosh.. no window problems! Big Thanks to > nikhiljha <https://github.com/nikhiljha>and his copr repo. > > O== my request > > In the last 3 days alone several updates ( i.e. bind-libs, gnome-shell > 40~alpha ) caused a lot of bugs and needed to be downgraded directly from > koji, > by first finding & downloading them with wget ( because of the slow wifi and > dependency checks, direct http links work ofcourse ), and later downgraded > with > dnf, which is so to speak, a pain in the ass. Of course, the best way to > handle it would be, if the os compenents came from stable repos, so that > these problems do not happen. But as i said, bleeding edge is needed atm. > > Is it possible to keep at least the last version of a package around in > rawhide repo, to make dnf downgrade work? That would ease a lot of this > pain. This has been a long time request. It's been shot down in the past due to the massive size increase (keeping 2x as many packages), and the issue of keeping around old packages that may have security issues. The last time this came up I think someone suggested perhaps that we keep old updates only for like a week, then drop them. That would give most people who update frequently a downgrade for a week, then (we hope) the thing is pretty stable. Of course Adam is right that we probibly don't want to spend too much time on this. I might file a pungi RFR on it tho. > I know that there is a native koji tool to handle rawhide, but i must say, > that won't work in most cases. Let me explain: > > Pine has announced to open stores in the US and Canada, because of the huge > amount of requests for a pinephone. As it looks, this phone, as cheap as it > compontants are, fills a gap of some kind. Therefor we will have much more > user using it, and (i hope i can help with it) will use Fedora with > Gnome-Shell. > Phosh is more like Android, it has it charm, but tbh I, and people I showned > it to, love they way gnome-shell handles stuff. > > We "may" get them to downgrade stuff with dnf, but that needs to be as > simple as it could. Hopefully before too long we can get things working with 100% fedora and then move to stable releases. kevin
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