On Thu, 2020-12-03 at 19:48 +0100, Clement Verna wrote: > > > I think if we don't want to accept a different > > > philosophy about release schedule and release engineering we can > just > > close > > > that Change proposal. > > > > That's not the outcome I intended, but rather that if we want > CoreOS to > > be an "Edition" but we don't want to require it to conform to the > > existing "philosophy", as you put it, we need the scope of this > Change > > to include thinking through all the consequences of that and > deciding > > what to do about them. > > > > Happy to do that, is your main concern about communication and the > story of > what is "Fedora" ? or what are the other consequences ? For me personally it's mainly about validation and release engineering. Specifically, making sure the processes we have in place for deciding when to cut a CoreOS release in a stream and when to bump streams between releases align with the Fedora-wide release criteria etc, and making sure the release criteria express all the requirements we actually intend to have for making those choices as regards CoreOS. Making sure there's a clear vertically-integrated process, like there is for "Fedora", from Edition PRDs to release criteria to validation tests to release decisions, and there are all the necessary bits of glue in between those layers, so you can pretty easily trace back and forth between them. But I suspect there are various consequences for other teams and other parts of the process, if you think about it. If you just look at a Fedora release schedule: https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-34/f-34-all-tasks.html there are a zillion things on there, and they're all aligned to our big every-six-month-release-machine somehow. At minimum, it'd be a good idea to look through all those and think about whether and how each entry would be affected by having an Edition with a completely different release process. > > More or less, yes - but with a key addition: "...and if so, how?" > > > > I feel that we already have the how, Fedora CoreOS has been releasing > fortnightly for more than a year now. > So it is a matter of making more widely known how this is done ? It's a matter of "how" from the perspective of the Fedora project. I just meant it as an expression of all the other stuff above. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
