Re: video meeting to discuss Matrix/Element and IRC

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On Thursday, November 19, 2020 10:34:28 AM MST Radka Gustavsson wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 6:11 PM Richard W.M. Jones <rjones@xxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 12:22:26PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > > [I posted to the Fedora Council list, but reposting here for wider
> > > distribution.]
> > > 
> > > As mentioned, we're looking at moving the Fedora Council's main chat to
> > > Matrix. And as part of that, we're considering a hosted Element server
> > > --
> > > which obviously could go quite beyond just #fedora-council. Neal
> > 
> > suggested a
> > 
> > > video meeting to talk with interested people about this, and so I set up
> > > this when-is-good
> > > 
> > >    http://whenisgood.net/k5brwbd
> > > 
> > > Anyone interested in a preliminary chat about all of this, please sign
> > > up
> > > with your FAS id and availability. Nothing is sent in stone or decided
> > > already, although I must say I'm pretty excited about Element's open
> > 
> > source
> > 
> > > software-as-a-service offering based on what I've heard from them so
> > > far.
> > 
> > There's quite a lot wrong here - a video meeting(!) to discuss
> > dropping a commonly used and well established channel of
> > communication.  Well, I guess at least you didn't decide to use the
> > proprietary awfulness of Slack.
> 
> Rich, IRC is not being dropped, it is being bridged to modern, "IRC-native"
> (for lack of better word in my vocabulary) platform. Contributors who
> prefer to stay on IRC are welcome to do so and won't really notice any
> difference.
> 
> > Couldn't you just talk about this on email?
> 
> https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/the-future-of-real-time-chat-discussi
> on-for-the-fedora-council/24628
> > Let me start off:
> > 
> > What's the reason why hosting your own server for a fairly uncommon
> > chat protocol is better than continuing to use IRC?
> 
> I too love dinosaurs... but I also work on 4 different computers and two
> mobile devices every day. Having to literally switch hardware to
> participate in IRC meetings is pain in the ass for some of our contributors
> (myself included.)

Have you considered using a bouncer, similar software or weechat/irssi, such 
that you don't have to switch hardware? This kind of software has become much 
easier to use these days, and there are many services available with web based 
options if you are uncomfortable with configuring software yourself.

-- 
John M. Harris, Jr.
Splentity

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