On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 05:55:49PM +0000, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 06:50:21PM +0100, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > No, please. IRC bridges need to be closed to force users to switch > > to Matrix. > "force"? You may have said the quiet bit aloud ... To be clear, Vitaly isn't an insider to some secret decision here. I think you should just read this as enthusiasm. That said, let me say a couple of things out loud so that no one later thinks I'm trying to sneak anything: 1. Matrix has already been a success for several Fedora sub-communities, and others have been using just personally as a way to access bridged IRC channels for years. If the next-phase pilot I'm proposing (which is: bring those bridged channels to one Fedora-owned server, and to move #fedora-council there as well) is a success, I *definitely* plan to propose "Matrix primary" as the next step. That doesn't mean forcing people to switch, but I would like to see zodbot be replaced with Matrix-native bots (possibly several for different functions, rather than one swiss army knife?), and for our documentation to point to our chat server first. And it means that people on IRC might miss out on some of the rich features of Matrix which don't translate very well. 2. Marie and I spoke with management at Red Hat's Open Source Program Office, and they're willing to fund SaaS hosting for this _separate from the Fedora community budget_, because they also would like Fedora communication channels to feel more approachable. So that's something I'd like to take advantage of. (This would be via Element's hosted services, which are all open source. They'll do both hosting and instance administration, so this is really quite nice for us.) -- Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Fedora Project Leader _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
