On 19/11/2020 18:55, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 06:50:21PM +0100, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: >> On 19.11.2020 18:34, Radka Gustavsson wrote: >>> Rich, IRC is not being dropped, it is being bridged to modern, >>> "IRC-native" (for lack of better word in my vocabulary) platform. >>> Contributors who prefer to stay on IRC are welcome to do so and >>> won't really notice any difference. >> >> No, please. IRC bridges need to be closed to force users to switch >> to Matrix. > > "force"? You may have said the quiet bit aloud ... yes, it got my attention too I'm not going to give a firm recommendation for or against any platform but I'd like to make two suggestions: a) why not slow the process down and allow more ideas to come forward? There is no urgent need to change things in a month or whatever. b) it is really important to look at the organizational factors and not just the technical factors. Today, too many organizations allow their culture to be shaped by whatever tool is available. I'll refrain from giving examples of the disasters that follow. For any free software organization and any other type of organization too, it needs to be organization first, tool second. Maybe I will recommend a platform... 73 Daniel _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx