On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 05:40:08PM +0000, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > Il 12/11/20 09:54, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek ha scritto: > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 06:36:54PM +0000, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > >> Il 11/11/20 16:56, Kevin Fenzi ha scritto: > >>> Greetings. > >>> > >>> FESCo is looking to update the updates policy document that is here: > >>> > >>> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Updates_Policy/ > >>> > >>> For the most part the updates are not changing any policy, but simply > >>> removing old/no longer accurate information (taskotron no longer exists, > >>> bodhi is always enabled, etc) and trying to clarify things. > >>> > >>> The one actual proposed change is to allow releng to untag builds that > >>> have already gone out in rawhide composes. This was forbidden by the > >>> existing policy. > >>> > >>> You can see the PR with the changes: > >>> > >>> https://pagure.io/fesco/fesco-docs/pull-request/40 > >>> > >>> and if you want to view the changed document: > >>> > >>> https://pagure.io/fork/kevin/fesco/fesco-docs/raw/updates-update/f/fesco/modules/ROOT/pages/Updates_Policy.adoc > >>> (you may want to install a adoc viewing extension in your browser to > >>> view it) > >>> > >>> Feedback welcome here or in the PR. > >>> > >>> FESCo is likely to look at this next week for approval. > >>> > >>> Thanks! > >>> > >>> kevin > >> Hi kevin, > >> > >> I've tried to summarize some of the aspects of the (updated) policy in > >> an image [1], is that right? I don't fully understand the difference > >> between the Beta during final freeze and Pre release... > > I think you are splitting one "phase" into two: "beta" and "pre-release". > > That should be just one phase called "pre-release". The "final freeze" > > block is part of that one phase, similarly to how "beta freeze" block > > is part of "pre-beta". > > > > I read the PR again, and it seems to me that the text matches my > > description above, i.e. it only has one phase. > > Maybe it's because my limited English comprehension, but that doesn't > seem much clear to me. > > In the PR I read: > " > > Beta to Pre Release > This is the time between the Beta release and the Final freeze. > > [...] > > Pre release > This is the time after the Final freeze. > > " > > I have uploaded the .svg to > https://mattia.fedorapeople.org/updates_policy.svg feel free to correct it! Yeah, it's kind of complex there. "Pre release" is after 'go' at a 'go/no-go meeting'. At that point updates _are_ pushed to stable, but they populate the updates repo, they no longer are part of the base release packages. The document doesn't make that part very clear tho... it folds in the above with the time before go... perhaps it could be clarified. I can try... kevin
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