Arjan van de Ven wrote:
On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 14:32 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote:Not only that, but certain settings are designed by the upstream to be changed before any redistribution. Fedora as a package ships icons that people are required to change because of trademark issues, for instance.
Today we use the release notes as standard homepage for all browsers,
instead of whatever is upstream default. Why do we do that, while
constantly repeating the mantra "upstream!, upstream!, upstream!"?
for me the "upstream" mantra applies far more to the code than to any actual settings of applications. If the user can and should change things, I don't see an issue with Fedora doing so as shipped as well.
With Firefox, the home page default is one of the most elastic settings of a distribution. From the days before Firefox was open source (e.i. when it was called Netscape), changing the home page and the throbber icon were the 2 most common changes made by other vendors when they redistributed the code. It's designed to be changed by the redistributor, and in fact almost always is (I know of few people who redistribute Firefox or Mozilla that don't change the home page).
So the "upstream!" argument doesn't hold (BTW the Firefox default is not Google, either, so you mother would still be lost because she started up in the 'download the latest version of Firefox' page). That doesn't mean the argument that the current default is silly, ineffective isn't valid, and I'm sure that topic can keep this thread going for quite some time...;).
bob
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