On 5/7/05, Kyrre Ness Sjobak <kyrre@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > It is, at least to some degree, "pushed down their throat", as a user > who clicks on "web browser" expects that, and nothing more/less - Most users using a desktop today... use IE as a browser... im pretty sure most users 'expect' to see an MSN default page.. or a page for AOL or some other ISP homepage.. if you want to get technical about expectations for 'most' computer users. Extrapolating your mother's experience with firefox.. doesn't say anything about common expectation. What you expect.... is not what I expect... and somehow I doubt either of us can be held up as an example of what the typical desktop user is thinking. I don't expect to see a google page or any other specific page. I expect to see a default that I will end up needing changing.. based on the circumstances in which that particular machine happens to be used in.. that is what I expect. At work my browser homepage ends up being an internal page from the internal webserver. At home right now its, http://darthside.blogspot.com/. The reality is most people installing fedora ARE admins of their own machines and I don't see a Fedora specific default homepage as being a particular poorer choice than a firefox default. The default page could be better in appearence and provide a link to the standard default firefox page and perhaps a brief instruction on how to choose a new homepge. But as a concept i think its perfectly acceptable to replace the default homepage with something fedora specific instead of firefox specific. The devil's in the details of what the fedora specific default should be. But I don't think it should be the firefox default... it should be a reasonably useful fedora default. If an oem does a fedora install... great...and I expect that OEM to change some default settings as they see fit for thier clients too. For large network installs, the network admins can most likely going to change the default homepage to something site specific anyways. Arguing about keeping the upstream default browser homepage seems a bit pedantic. It seems much more sensible to be arguing about what the fedora specific homepage should be including instead. -jef -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list