On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 10:37:29AM +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote: > > But I very much agree that GCC should be moving into rawhide earlier > > than has been done in the past. In an ideal world it would have gone in > > just after F33 branched and updated regularly. > > Big +1 on that. > > Right after branching rawhide tends to be relatively quiet as the just > branched version gets most of the attention, so any mishaps are fairly > contained and cause minimal disruption, but there's always enough going on > that you do get plenty of testing. And when the general focus starts > shifting back to rawhide and the next release, the worst initial kinks have > already been worked out. > > That's how we try to land new rpm versions too, and it has proven to work > very well for all parties AFAICS. And whenever we miss that slot, there's > pain, suffering and lots of unnecessary stress. The thing is that GCC is a moving target at that point, while you can fix up packages to deal with GCC at certain date, in a week or two you might need to do it again, or there could be ABI changes etc. Which is why I'm suggesting at least end of GCC stage1, which still doesn't guarantee any of that, at least major new features shouldn't be making it in (unless they were posted already before that), and people start focusing on fixing bugs (some bugs are fixed continually, but a concerted effort to fix bugs starts at end of stage1). Jakub _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx