On 10/22/20 7:00 AM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 02:27:13PM +0200, Aleksandra Fedorova wrote: >> Hi, all, >> >> this is the informational message, no action required. >> >> Upon agreement between gcc maintainers and ELN SIG we would like to >> switch ELN buildroot to use GCC11 ahead of Fedora Rawhide. >> >> Though ELN is defined as the buildroot where Fedora Rawhide code is >> rebuilt into EL-like environment, in the ELN proposal we also >> mentioned that ELN can be used to test certain buildroot-related >> features on the side so it doesn't block Fedora Rawhide development. >> >> We think that GCC11 is one such feature, where we can benefit from >> testing it first on a small subset of the Fedora content in a separate >> environment. > I'm not very enthusiastic about this change. > > Fedora maintainers can largely ignore ELN right now, because if stuff > works in rawhide, it will generally work in ELN, and someone else is > taking care of ELN builds. > > New GCC releases almost always trigger new compile warnings or bugs > in code. So by pushing GCC 11 into ELN, it feels like we're making > it much more likely that ELN builds will fail, and now Fedora > maintainers have to debug ELN specific problems that won't reproduce > in rawhide branches :-( True, but the GCC team (me in particular) have already been building rawhide with gcc-11 snapshots and fixing these issues. I do think we need to make it easier for a Fedora package maintainer to get the gcc-11 bits so that if there's a need to debug a bad interaction between gcc-11 and a package they can. jeff _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
