On 9/28/20 11:21 AM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > I would have expected NetworkManager to handle this kind of setup just fine. What went wrong? getting offtopic, but ... a laundry list. including broken routes, missed existing unit-file interface dependencies particularly once bridges get involved, absolute disfunction with setups including shorewall & wireguard, blah blah blah. and, generally, a stubborn, been-there-done-that view that NM has *no place* on my servers &/or workstations. i'm sure _all_ of it was "bandaid-able" with enough monkeying around. simply not worth the effort, cost, and uncertainty; i'd already moved OS/distros to get away from a flaky network stack (among other issues, of course; not the least of which was, ironically, old/dusty systemd version!) ... and intransigent 'policy' decisions that came with it. systemd-networkd with enterprise-grade/fits-my-needs DNS servers/resolvers works. very nicely. fingers-crossed that removing the unwanted/unwelcome cruft remains an easy option. as always, YMMV. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx