Re: About the Future of Communishift

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On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 at 12:59, clime <clime@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 at 12:48, Aoife Moloney <amoloney@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Good Morning Everyone,
> >
> > I wanted to share with you some information regarding the current
> > state and future of Communishift. The infrastructure team presented on
> > this project back in 2019 during Nest [1] [2], and since then, we have
> > deployed it, started using it and had to shut it down for
> > the colo-move.
> >
> > As a number of people have noted, it has not come back up yet, and
> > during Nest this year, we had hinted that communishift is not going to
> > come back alive looking
> > the same as when we shut it down, and that is unfortunately true.
> >
> > The idea for communishift was to give to anyone in the community a place where
> > they could run any application they wish to provide to the community.
> > This was a proper place where Joe and Jane could offer the service foo to the
> > foo SIG without engaging the infrastructure's team responsibility to keep the
> > service up and running. The infrastructure team would have been able to say:
> > "well the openshift cluster is running, so if the app isn't, talk to the
> > application maintainer, there is nothing we can do about it".
> >
> > Basically, it gave a place where we could experiment with new apps
> > without adding too
> > much work to the infrastructure team.
> >
> > However, the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) [3] and the California
> > Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA) [4] basically makes the Fedora Infrastructure team
> > (and thus Red Hat) responsible for the content hosted by any services running in
> > our infrastructure. In other words, the Fedora Infrastructure team would be
> > responsible to answer all GDPR/CCPA related requests and requirements for any
> > and all services running in communishift (services that the team has 0 knowledge
> > about, that's the whole goal of communishift).
> >
> > For these reasons communishift is not going to come back to life in the same way
> > it was shut down for the colo move.
> >
> > We have not given up on the original idea though (ie: providing a place where
> > community members can deploy applications without adding work on the
> > infrastructure team), however, as with anything involving legal, this is going
> > to be a slow process. We will share any information as soon as we are able.
> >
> >
> > We're sorry for the inconvenience this causes, we really would like the
> > situation to be different but we also appreciate these regulations for what they
> > are (protecting our personal information) so we want to respect them.
> >
> >
> > Hoping this clarifies the situation around communishift a bit.
> >
> > Aoife, Kevin & Pingou
> >   - On behalf of the Fedora Infrastructure team
>
> Hello Aoife,
>
> is it working right now so that I can deploy my community app there or
> currently not working at all?

Or better...is there at least some alternative or some way to deploy a
community app
these days? Or currently none. :)

Thank you for the answer
clime

>
> Thank you
> clime
>
> >
> >
> > [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructue/Communishift
> > [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phCHilTEQb4&list=PL0x39xti0_64C75dRUuwlXlfYRgjgdEP4&index=8&t=0s
> > [3] https://gdpr-info.eu/
> > [4] https://www.oag.ca.gov/privacy/ccpa
> >
> > [4] https://www.oag.ca.gov/privacy/ccpa
> >
> > --
> > Aoife Moloney
> > Product Owner
> > Community Platform Engineering Team
> > Red Hat EMEA
> > Communications House
> > Cork Road
> > Waterford
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