On Wed, 2020-08-26 at 01:14 +0000, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 10:51 PM Michel Alexandre Salim > <michel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Also, should we add WireGuard to this list for future-proofing? > > I had thought about explicitly suggesting > wireguard, but then thought that we should > focus on what is currently being used, and > while *I* use wireguard, it is still not really > a common use case. > > We do, of course, need to remember to > regularly review all the criteria to make > sure that they still make sense in the current > environment and be willing to delete some > things from the list when only a few still > have such equipment or use the functionality. > > I would almost suggest any addition > should come with a criteria deletion, > to bound the work for the QA team, > who are, after all, a limited resource. I **AM** THE QA TEAM well, okay, not all of it. :P But yeah, I get the intention of that idea, but it wouldn't really work out. We do just need to add things sometimes. This is really about covering stuff that we would have wanted to block on anyway (and sometimes have, by stretching other criteria) but just hadn't ever written into the criteria. We do drop things sometimes and make other adjustments like how we stopped requiring such extensive testing of physical media and restricted the desktop criteria a bit, a couple of releases back. But making it a strict one in/one out probably wouldn't be practical. Also note that ensuring the products meets these criteria is meant to be a collaborative effort; the teams who build the products are supposed to share that responsibility with the QA team, including doing some of the actual testing. I agree on the WireGuard front - that's what I meant by saying "It doesn't really make sense to add things to the release criteria for future proofing." The criteria should reflect *current* importance. Unless use of WireGuard is in the same ballpark as OpenVPN or Cisco etc. we probably wouldn't want to include it right now. I *do* wonder if any of the other VPN plugins I see listed at https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/NetworkManager/VPN but didn't include in the criterion are candidates. Does anyone have stats / practical knowledge of the relative popularity of all those? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
