Re: What is the real value of Release and %changelog metadata?

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Pavel Raiskup wrote:
> Questionnaire right at the beginning, so if you tl;dr, you don't miss it:
> 
>     https://forms.gle/Jgr13vtRkiUwLb6W6

The questionnaire itself is short, but understanding all the proposals
is considerable work. That's where TL;DR will happen.

> Let's stop requiring Release bumps for each build.  And let's put an
> additional tag into Release, like proposed in [4]:
> 
>     "Release: 1%{?dist}%{?buildtag}"
> 
> ... and let the build-system to put there an artificial (but increasing for
> subsequent build IDs) value.

I am of course in favor of this, as I've already suggested it myself.

> Or alternatively, teach the build-system to enhance
> %dist in a similar fashion, as suggested in [5].

That would also work technically, although it would turn the name
"dist" into a misnomer.

>   %changelog
>   * This package doesn't provide changelog metadata, check it online
>     https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/<name>/commits/<last_commit>

To the extent that users read changelogs at all, I think they would be
more interested in the upstream changelog than in the Fedora Git
changelog.

> Side question:  Is it really useful to put "Rebuilt for
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_XX_Mass_Rebuild"; into changelogs?

I don't see any use for those entries. There is already a build
timestamp in the package metadata.

Björn Persson

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