Re: Reserve resources for active users (Workstation) - Fedora 33 Self-Contained Change proposal

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On Sun, 2020-07-12 at 07:18 +0900, Alexey A. wrote:
> >oomd (or rather systemd-oomd) and will make heavy use of cgroups to
> work well
> 
> Other side of this is high CPU usage: 
> https://github.com/facebookincubator/oomd/issues/79

That is an implementation problem of oomd. And irrelevant in the
context of systemd-oomd.

Benjamin

> сб, 11 июл. 2020 г. в 17:34, Benjamin Berg <bberg@xxxxxxxxxx>:
> > On Sat, 2020-07-11 at 08:43 +0200, Igor Raits wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2020-07-10 at 15:55 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote:
> > > > 
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Reserve_resources_for_active_user_WS
> > > > 
> > > > == Summary ==
> > > > This proposal adds cgroup based resource protections for the
> > active
> > > > graphical session. This is done by passing a memory protection
> > of
> > > > 250MiB to active users (capped at 10% of system memory) and by
> > > > enabling other cgroup controllers (CPU, IO) to ensure important
> > > > session processes get the resources they need.
> > > 
> > > Just curious, why 250MiB and not some other number?
> > 
> > Initially, it was an educated guess (i.e. it seemed low enough to
> > be
> > reasonable and high enough to be useful).
> > 
> > I then continued to do a bit of experimentation and found that my
> > gnome-shell would stop page-faulting quite a lot if I gave the
> > session
> > processes >=350MiB of memory (measured by manually setting
> > memory.max
> > and using "perf trace -F -p X").
> > 
> > Tejun suggests it is sufficient to protect around 50-75% of the
> > required memory, so 250MiB still seemed like a reasonable value
> > after
> > those tests.
> > 
> > Note that it is easy to change, simpliy modify /etc/uresourced.conf
> > (and, ideally reboot to ensure it is properly applied to your user
> > session).
> > 
> > > > See: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/154
> > > > 
> > > > == Owner ==
> > > > * Name: [[User:benzea|Benjamin Berg]]
> > > > * Email: bberg@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > > * Product: Workstation
> > > > * Responsible WG: Workstation
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > == Detailed Description ==
> > > > Graphical sessions should always be responsive, even when the
> > > > machine
> > > > is doing a lot work or in the extreme case has started to
> > thrash.
> > > > We
> > > > have started to ship EarlyOOM with F32, however, while it is a
> > good
> > > > solution to this date, it is shipped with the understanding of
> > > > being
> > > > superseded by other approaches in the future.
> > > 
> > > Does it mean we do not ship earlyoom anymore or what is this
> > sentence
> > > supposed to indicate?
> > 
> > EarlyOOM is still very useful today. However, from my point of
> > view,
> > EarlyOOM is just an intermediate measure until a more advanced
> > solution
> > is implemented and can be rolled out to users. This solution will
> > be
> > based on oomd (or rather systemd-oomd) and will make heavy use of
> > cgroups to work well.
> > 
> > This is a longer path, shipping uresourced puts us a step further
> > down
> > that road.
> > 
> > > [SNIP]
> > 
> > Benjamin
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