Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

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On Thu, 2020-07-09 at 16:15 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote:
> However I have had bad kernels, power outages, loss of battery power
> (laptops on too long suspend) and other random reasons to force
> reboot
> a system. That has been the primary case of file system checks
> through
> my Fedora usage. And luckily so far I never had a loss of filesystem
> or
> data that way, fsck always ended up solving most of the issues, and
> whenever I lost file they ended up being temporary files I did not
> care
> for.
> 
> I do not think those failures are common in Facebook fleets, so I am
> quite skeptical FB data and failure modes are representative of
> Fedora
> usage as a desktop/laptop OS and therefore of the behavior of btrfs
> in
> those cases.

As someone on one of the teams at FB that has to deal with that, I can
assure you all the scenarios you listed can and do happen, and they
happen a lot. While we don't have the "laptop's out of battery" issue
on the production side, we have plenty of power events and unplanned
maintenances that can and will hit live machines and cut power off.
Force reboots (triggered by either humans or automation) are also not
at all uncommon. Rebuilding machines from scratch isn't free, even with
all the automation and stuff we have, so if power loss or reboot events
on machines using btrfs caused widespread corruption or other issues
I'm confident we'd have found that out pretty early on.

Cheers
Davide
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